Unavoidable tournaments! Direct fights

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Re: Unavoidable tournaments!

Post#61 » 27 Feb 2017, 14:49

Surprising turns of the events, for the first time not a veteran from alpha 5.x won at the first appearance!

Checking the games played pikey lost a lot of them, still the rules of the tournament are such that if a player loses a lot, but wins a lot too, therefore playing a lot in general, this is rewarded by the tournament rules, the player is able to cumulate quite a lot of points.

Another thing to observe is that the number of points accumulated in the tournament is way lower than the previous. This means that the activity between top players diminished. It is almost equal to the first tournament in almost the last days of alpha 6.1.3 .

(players not having any direct fights with 3 encounters are not listed)
scores tournament no.7 , day 7/7, 1550+ players (active), 400+ games
1. pikey score:102 (first appearance in the tournament)
2. mcompany score:72
2. t-800 (nullpointer) score:72
3. brunojuara score:49.5
ritter runkel score:33
botique score:21
uthael score:19.5
pier4r nvidia k1 score:18
awareness score:15
LinusOccolt score:13.5
wozza score:10.5
leif ragnar score:10.5
titus score:9
tommecc score:9
monkjm1 score:9
code2hack score:7.5
igigin score:6
caul score:6
grindmax score:4.5
kjr score:3
aw0093 score:3
serge score:3
peli score:1.5
willmat score:0
jbdb score:0

direct fights: http://pastebin.com/MgcnQ702
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Re: Unavoidable tournaments!

Post#62 » 01 Mar 2017, 14:45

So far the tournament with the lowest activity in the first two days of all the tournaments so far computed. Maybe it will recover later. (actually it is a nice opportunity for the ones that are strong to spam games, collect victories and seize it)

Conscious-one, that is in the challenging mode in this period, still has to show to be able to keep the upper hand in direct fights. While mcompany can try again to win this week, after his great performances since several tournaments, which are never enough, though, for the first place.

(players not having any direct fights with 3 encounters are not listed)
scores tournament no.8 , day 2/7, 1550+ players (active), 400+ games
wozza score:6
brunojuara score:3
LinusOccolt score:3
kjr score:3
conscious-one score:1.5
awareness score:1.5
serge score:0
ritter runkel score:0

direct fights: http://pastebin.com/cqJTyGmS
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Re: Unavoidable tournaments!

Post#63 » 01 Mar 2017, 16:21

I'm fairly certain there are more than just those 8 that has a record in this tournament, what happened to everyone else's score?

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Re: Unavoidable tournaments!

Post#64 » 01 Mar 2017, 21:03

The players appear in the score list only if they have at least one match with 3 encounters (it is written in the parenthesis).

For more details there is the direct fight list, that is also the most interesting part. But good that people do observations because I may overlook there and there.
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Re: Unavoidable tournaments!

Post#65 » 04 Mar 2017, 09:26

Still not so many direct fights this week compared to the other weeks, maybe there is a lot of activity by players under 1550 points?

Conscious is still not keeping the promise of beating everyone, but recovering 20 points should be not impossible. Wozza and mcompany battle for the 1st place. Will pikey overcome them again due to his activity?
There are some players with a lot of encounters, but very few "valid" encounters so far (see Ritter in the link on pastebin).

(players not having any direct fights with 3 encounters are not listed)
scores tournament no.8 , day 5/7, 1550+ players (active), 400+ games
wozza score:28.5
mcompany score:24
LinusOccolt score:15
pikey score:12
awareness score:7.5
conscious-one score:3
baloox score:3
botique score:3
pedrodemil score:3
brunojuara score:3
kjr score:3
castlevania score:0
ritter runkel score:0

direct fights: http://pastebin.com/t2qNxKCf
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Re: Unavoidable tournaments!

Post#66 » 04 Mar 2017, 23:36

That is so weird, I had so many fights the last days but almost all fights to players inner 1500 elo score. That's a pitty.

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Re: Unavoidable tournaments!

Post#67 » 05 Mar 2017, 11:14

Well the time is not yet over so we will see.
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Re: Unavoidable tournaments!

Post#68 » 05 Mar 2017, 13:49

Awareness shows up whenever I decide to farm,
I feel like Ive been plotted for takedown which he already did actually.(i guess ive been picked as target because I only have 47% at top :cry:, those are battle scars from alpha testing from lower versions, moslty done by mcomp, ritter and blitz)
Funny thing is that awareness =/ consciousness

Papa pier,
The player
Pikey is newcomer i think.
I remember the player
Kini as 4.x champion
Prowler (nullpionter)

I think the old one at top too is,
Peli.
Im not the best player, but atleast im something.I'm 8
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Re: Unavoidable tournaments!

Post#69 » 06 Mar 2017, 12:25

Those weeks of relative low activity between 1550+ players are very surprising. Pikey, using the chance, just collected his second tournament (I damn myself why am I not playing!? Surely there was a good chance to win it) together with t800 and Ritter runkel. I repeat, the tournament rewards the one that plays the most against relatively strong players and wins the majority of direct fights.

Once again mcompany streak of presence in the top3 persist, it is no small feat, but I was hoping that this was a good time for a win.

Conscious, although claiming to win many players (here, here, and in some other posts), did not play enough to accumulate points. Wozza, although doing good, ended up short of the third place.

(players not having any direct fights with 3 encounters are not listed)
scores tournament no.8 , day 7/7, 1550+ players (active), 400+ games
1. pikey score:90
2. mcompany score:58.5
3. awareness score:52.5
wozza score:33
jbdb-pc score:15
ritter runkel score:15
baloox score:13.5
masterplayer4000 score:13.5
botique score:12
conscious-one score:6
A-8068 score:6
kjr score:6
castlevania score:6
psp score:3
pps score:3
pedrodemil score:3
serge score:3
jayaR score:0
aw0093 score:0
einstein score:0

direct fights: http://pastebin.com/NcMyuerj
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Re: Unavoidable tournaments!

Post#70 » 06 Mar 2017, 12:32

Also updated the first post.
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Re: Unavoidable tournaments!

Post#71 » 06 Mar 2017, 12:50

Didnt claim beating players till the ground, just said i can take them.


The good news is.
I found out that,
I HAVE TWO DIFFERENT AIS ON SPLIT TEAM, MEETING POINT, MG AND SYP -_-
screw me, and i spammed them all the way.

In paniced when you told me to SPAM matches :cry: tht ruined everything. I forgot im on a testing phase.
(Spammed deprecated bots without any awareness)

Should i delete all again papa pier?
Im not the best player, but atleast im something.I'm 8
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Re: Unavoidable tournaments!

Post#72 » 06 Mar 2017, 13:11

Quick update,
80 im an idiot matches deployed is finally done. This should be the lowest i could go with my current build.
(I didn't notice the duplicates at
Blue original bots
Red mk_II bots)

I dont mind tournaments as usual, i just play to waste my time. And me forcing myself here is stressing me out.
Im not the strongest player, i know and im younger than you think ;), im not experienced in any programming even at logic. (Pre-school, sorry)
(My bots are work of lazy person who knows little logic. Nothing special thats it.)
Im not the best player, but atleast im something.I'm 8
Science is madness! 3:)

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Re: Unavoidable tournaments!

Post#73 » 06 Mar 2017, 14:01

ConsciouS-0nE wrote:.

Mostly everyone is continously testing small changes, see pikey, me, Ritter, etc. Just proceed with evolution. If the changes are mostly good, you collect more victories than defeats and so you collect most of the points.

It is up to you to delete everything. I would not do it unless the tactic takes too much to be changed.

As for the tournament, I suppose it is up to you to decide to compete seriously (spamming) or not. I guess many players win points in the tournament without thinking about it. I am the only one that does it willingly.
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Re: Unavoidable tournaments!

Post#74 » 06 Mar 2017, 14:23

So, my observations of pikey is quite interesting, or rather my I noticed that can't really notice pikey until the last day. That's kinda interesting because the last day is always a weekend (where I'd assume most of us has the most amount of free time) and the whole stigma of the last day easily allows for there to be more players that qualify to play in order to gain score. Now considering that, I;m surprised just how many points he mostly got in a single day.

Anyways, I probably had enough qualifying sets, but I know I took quite the amount of losses this week, and I'm honestly surprised I had enough games to sneak into 2nd dispite the amount of losses I took

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Re: Unavoidable tournaments!

Post#75 » 06 Mar 2017, 16:02

Yah its always best when you test,
But its never good when you test and forgot that your testing and deploy almost 100 games with unstable ais.

My bot character are so small that i rarely noticed i changed them.

Ex. My split team

Blue team all is named /st
Red team is named /st2
And i did that to 4 more maps lol, im an idiot.
Brb soon tho.
Im not the best player, but atleast im something.I'm 8
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Re: Unavoidable tournaments!

Post#76 » 06 Mar 2017, 16:25

mcompany wrote: whole stigma of the last day easily allows for there to be more players that qualify to play in order to gain score. Now considering that, I;m surprised just how many points he mostly got in a single day.


For me the point is: in the week-end there is more activity, but nevertheless one builds up points (remember that direct fights with 2 encounters do not count) also in the weekdays. So since pikey played like 750 games in the week, while all the players in the top 3 played less, he had more chances to accumulate points (of course, given that he wins the matches).

But it is also possible because the amount of points hold by many players where not so much. I mean we had tournaments were 90 was not even enough for the 3rd place.
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Re: Unavoidable tournaments!

Post#77 » 08 Mar 2017, 12:16

Stimulated by a new fixes, Ritter breaks a period of partial activity and release an impressive spam of games, collecting most of the points (see past tournaments. Ritter scored always some points but often was distant from the 3rd position in terms of points, aside from the two tournaments that he won. For example mcompany was way more constant in being in the top3). Pikey follow closely, confirming that he is still quite active and also getting better (that is, he is winning more and more direct fights over the total played). The rest of the group follows the pattern of the past tournament, hardly the first 2 days in the week - because the scores of today are not included - are enough to let people pass the 15 points threshold.

If the trend holds in this way, even if past tournaments shown that surprises are possible, would be unlikely to recover ritter points. If the activity trend holds like the two past tournaments, the top player at the end of the week has to accumulate 90 or more points. That is: winning 30 direct fights (each on a different map). For more info, as usual, check the direct fights link.

Side notes. Mcompany is always quite active but his recent activity is returning around 75 points in a week, so he still have a chance to win. Will conscious-one be able to spam like pikey and collect even more points than pikey?

It is unlikely that I will compete also in this tournament (damn me), but surely I will help someone to get points.

(players not having any direct fights with 3 encounters are not listed)
scores tournament no.9 , day 2/7, 1550+ players (active), 400+ games
ritter runkel score:46.5
pikey score:31.5
mcompany score:7.5
jbdb-pc score:6
tortuga score:4.5
baloox score:4.5
pier4r nvidia k1 score:3
wozza score:3
conscious-one score:1.5
code2hack score:1.5
pedrodemil score:1.5
awareness score:0
psp score:0

direct fights: http://pastebin.com/HybTggBe
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Re: Unavoidable tournaments!

Post#78 » 10 Mar 2017, 10:34

Very likely that Ritter is going to get his 3rd tournament. Still pikey may not surrender so quickly.

(players not having any direct fights with 3 encounters are not listed)
scores tournament no.9 , day 4/7, 1550+ players (active), 400+ games
ritter runkel score:102
pikey score:60 (1150+ games played in the last 7 days, impressive!)
mcompany score:25.5
pedrodemil score:24
wozza score:21
pps score:16.5
baloox score:15
jbdb-pc score:10.5
mrchris score:10.5
A-8068 score:6
bossbuk score:4.5
tortuga score:4.5
leif ragnar score:3
pier4r nvidia k1 score:3
spp score:3
kjr score:3
code2hack score:1.5
conscious-one score:1.5
psp score:0
awareness score:0

direct fights: http://pastebin.com/AA3gfU5M
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Re: Unavoidable tournaments!

Post#79 » 10 Mar 2017, 11:22

Updating the scores with: maximum scores attainable if one would win all the valid games played. The number of valid games (that assigns points) against the number of total games. The difference shows the latent potential in points (assuming that the valid games are hard to recover. That is, a 3-0 is hard to convert to 1.5-1.5 or 0.3).

(players not having any direct fights with 3 encounters are not listed)
scores tournament no.9 , day 4/7, 1550+ players (active), 400+ games
ritter runkel score:102 max th. score:108 valid games/total games:36/102
pikey score:60 max th. score:105 valid games/total games:35/109
-> this means that pikey has collected so far 35 valid games out of 109 direct fights (so the remaining direct fights have less than 3 matches played on the given map). If he would have had a win ratio of 100% he would have collected 105 points. Still pikey may collect many points if he and the opponents would complete the remaining direct fights.
mcompany score:25.5 max th. score:36 valid games/total games:12/85
pedrodemil score:24 max th. score:39 valid games/total games:13/66
wozza score:21 max th. score:24 valid games/total games:8/76
pps score:16.5 max th. score:33 valid games/total games:11/54
baloox score:15 max th. score:39 valid games/total games:13/84
jbdb-pc score:10.5 max th. score:21 valid games/total games:7/55
mrchris score:10.5 max th. score:108 valid games/total games:36/93
A-8068 score:6 max th. score:24 valid games/total games:8/53
bossbuk score:4.5 max th. score:9 valid games/total games:3/39
tortuga score:4.5 max th. score:21 valid games/total games:7/55
leif ragnar score:3 max th. score:3 valid games/total games:1/23
pier4r nvidia k1 score:3 max th. score:3 valid games/total games:1/27
spp score:3 max th. score:21 valid games/total games:7/49
kjr score:3 max th. score:3 valid games/total games:1/10
code2hack score:1.5 max th. score:18 valid games/total games:6/34
conscious-one score:1.5 max th. score:9 valid games/total games:3/48
psp score:0 max th. score:3 valid games/total games:1/5
awareness score:0 max th. score:3 valid games/total games:1/43

direct fights: http://pastebin.com/AA3gfU5M
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Re: Unavoidable tournaments!

Post#80 » 10 Mar 2017, 12:15

Cool :-)

Looking forward to the next tournament

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