Gladiabots Cup 2017.08 #2

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Gladiabots Cup 2017.08 #2

Post#1 » 03 Aug 2017, 07:42

https://www.toornament.com/tournaments/ ... nformation

So, as anticipated before, time to open the second tournament since the previous one is going to be closed soon.

Of course the second tournament won't start while the previous is open, but ideally there will be not so much gap in between. Like the unavoidable tournaments.

This time I finally participate to annoy you all 8-)

Rules and settings like the previous tournament. As I said, for tournaments that variate a bit (like on one map / with special rules) others have to organize them.

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Re: Gladiabots Cup 2017.08 #2

Post#2 » 03 Aug 2017, 08:20

I am not sure if I want to take that time again. It is time consuming to create games (sometimes twice) and follow forum / chat who to query. People still not playing the queried games delay the tournament much and distort the representativity of the tournament.

It would be really nice if the games would be automatically deployed in my tournament tab.
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Post#3 » 03 Aug 2017, 09:50

In my experience, automatic management + real people + online = failure. But I understand that deploying matches is tiresome.

It is not that you have to participate, aside from the unavoidable tournaments (I still have to wait to setup the servers at home), those tournaments are based on your decision. If you don't want to play, there is no reason to play them.

Moreover I also understand that you have to find an excuse to not meet me, and therefore losing 8-)
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Post#4 » 03 Aug 2017, 18:36

pier4r wrote:In my experience, automatic management + real people + online = failure. But I understand that deploying matches is tiresome.

I think you have some experiences with automatic things that aren't accurate to how things will turn out. The current method of deploying isn't the best and getting the data from it is even worse, so having the deployment be automatic would definitely be a plus

Speaking of that, since gfx isn't working on gladiabots until the 7th, and automatic generation will probably take longer, I was wondering if the next few tournaments could be moved to www.challonge.com at least until gfx works with toournament's api

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Post#5 » 03 Aug 2017, 19:35

As said in telegram. If players are willing to g to challonge, no problem for me. Otherwise, on my side there is not much difference.
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Post#6 » 04 Aug 2017, 09:22

pier4r wrote:Moreover I also understand that you have to find an excuse to not meet me, and therefore losing 8-)

Challenge accepted. Started a mini tournament against you.
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Post#7 » 04 Aug 2017, 20:28

LuBeNo wrote:
pier4r wrote:Moreover I also understand that you have to find an excuse to not meet me, and therefore losing 8-)

Challenge accepted. Started a mini tournament against you.


Did you think you could win?
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Well actually I let you win on even too many maps, I am too merciful. Now join the tournament.
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Post#8 » 05 Aug 2017, 09:30

I have to say that the swiss system is not bad, but still allows a bit of uncertainity due to the pairings. It is like having many "single elimintaion tournaments" running together.
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Post#9 » 05 Aug 2017, 18:19

we are already enough (anything more than 3 is great). But if we would be 8, that would be nice. Other 3 victims please register!
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Post#10 » 05 Aug 2017, 18:40

pier4r wrote:
LuBeNo wrote:
pier4r wrote:Moreover I also understand that you have to find an excuse to not meet me, and therefore losing 8-)

Challenge accepted. Started a mini tournament against you.

Did you think you could win?

Yes I thought so. ;) I have to improve, my recent changes prevented the pushing.
But well played.
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Post#11 » 06 Aug 2017, 09:27

If we are not many (less than 7) I will go for a single round robin, so we can deploy everything mostly at once (I will give some 2-3 days for deployment and the rest to collect results).
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Post#12 » 06 Aug 2017, 13:06

If no one else joins (understandable, it is August. Not the best time for tournaments. Normally autumn is the best time and January-April) within today I start the tournament tomorrow. Round robin, so everyone deploys against everyone and I'll set 3 days to deploy all the matches (of course, coordinate! Although deploying twice is not that bad, if it happens all the deployments will be considered) to then consider the results.
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Post#13 » 06 Aug 2017, 14:58

If you do not start until next sunday I am in. :D
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Post#14 » 06 Aug 2017, 15:49

Don't worry for that they there will be another tournament.
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Post#15 » 07 Aug 2017, 09:16

So the cup is started, since we are only 5, it is a round robin. challenge everyone in the tournament within the 10th of August.

Of course you may coordinate with the opponent so you do not send matches against everyone while the other just waits.
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Post#16 » 07 Aug 2017, 16:02

Milkhunter asked to join and I add him. We are 6 now, we will still manage to deploy everything within the 10th of August.
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Post#17 » 07 Aug 2017, 17:21

I don't want to play against Milkhunter :'(

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Post#18 » 07 Aug 2017, 18:55

You should cry that you have to play against me!
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Post#19 » 07 Aug 2017, 19:02

pier4r wrote:You should cry that you have to play against me!


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Post#20 » 07 Aug 2017, 19:48

we will see Kaniskha, we will see.
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