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Re: Gladiabots Cup 2017.08 #1

Posted: 03 Aug 2017, 11:44
by pier4r
from telegram


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Pier A, [Aug 3, 2017, 11:42 AM]:
if I see too many players ot the top with same points, and likely crucial fights missing, then yes

like Miojo vs lubeno may be missing and may be crucial

but it is valid only for the top

worst case there are the tie breakers

actually a swiss system can be log_2(participants) in terms of rounds with accelerated pairings, something I did not do

moreover the tournament will be recurring so after many of them the single one matters but the overview matters more

Re: Gladiabots Cup 2017.08 #1

Posted: 03 Aug 2017, 11:46
by pier4r
an the idea of 4 matches from one player and 4 matches from another is nice. I do not enforce it otherwise it become a bureaucratic mess (which one deploys what?), but otherwise I agree.

Just both players need to know.

Re: Gladiabots Cup 2017.08 #1

Posted: 03 Aug 2017, 18:11
by TheKidPunisher
Mcompany 4:3 TheKidPunisher 1draw

Update:
744727 Kingmaker: Mcompany
744726 Mind Game: Draw
744725 Split Team: Mcompany
744723 Circle of Death: TheKidPunisher
744722 Meeting Point: Mcompany
744721 Set Your Priorities:Mcompany
744719 Seven Wonders: TheKidPunisher
744728 Barred Spiral: TheKidPunisher


GG

Re: Gladiabots Cup 2017.08 #1

Posted: 04 Aug 2017, 01:04
by TalonZa
Waiting on you Chilio. Games all requested...

Re: Gladiabots Cup 2017.08 #1

Posted: 04 Aug 2017, 07:43
by pier4r
Thanks for the report! I cannot know if games are deployed otherwise.

Re: Gladiabots Cup 2017.08 #1

Posted: 04 Aug 2017, 18:16
by 0x1de
Set up all games with mrchris

Re: Gladiabots Cup 2017.08 #1

Posted: 04 Aug 2017, 22:55
by pier4r
5th and last round created (I learned I can create it even if some matches are missing from the previous round) to finalize the top3.

I will decide the remaining matches of the round4 tomorrow morning if they are not played.

new matches:
castlevania vs milkhunter
lubeno vs talonza
ritter vs miojo
kanishka vs chilio
0x1de vs mcopany
arcueid vs the kid punisher
chris vs b head


then the players that wants a second chance can subscribe to the other tournament

Re: Gladiabots Cup 2017.08 #1

Posted: 05 Aug 2017, 04:39
by B_head
waiting for the game with Einstein.

Re: Gladiabots Cup 2017.08 #1

Posted: 05 Aug 2017, 09:28
by pier4r
OK it was too good to be true. So one can deploy the next round but then the matches in the previous round gets locked.

A workaround is to assign those matches a draw, generate the new matches, and then fix the scores of the old matches. Lesson learned.

I will see if I can fix the rounds once the 5th round is finished.

I'll do: 0x1de vs chris 8-0 (0x1de deployed)
B head vs einstein, I have to check.

Re: Gladiabots Cup 2017.08 #1

Posted: 05 Aug 2017, 17:14
by mcompany
pier4r wrote:I will see if I can fix the rounds once the 5th round is finished.

I'll answer that for you and say that you can't

Re: Gladiabots Cup 2017.08 #1

Posted: 05 Aug 2017, 18:13
by pier4r
Ok I have the possibility to use the tiebreak, I'll see it those will work. Surely I knew that websites are somehow limited compared to plain text forms. Does not matter much, all experience. Next time I wait until I deploy the 5th round. I was just trying to be nice but well, backfired.

Re: Gladiabots Cup 2017.08 #1

Posted: 05 Aug 2017, 18:25
by pier4r
Snort even the mangling of the rankings does not help. It changes the order but not the real score.

So lesson learned, before creating a new round, fill the previous matches (also, once a new round is made, even played matches are locked :| )

Re: Gladiabots Cup 2017.08 #1

Posted: 05 Aug 2017, 19:22
by LuBeNo
Games against TalonZa:

Code: Select all

745903  Won   Set your priorities
745905  Won   Meeting point
745907  Won   Circle of Death
745908  Won   Split team
745909  Lost  Mind Game
745911  Won   Kingmaker
745901  Won   The seven wonders
745913  Won   Barred Spiral

Re: Gladiabots Cup 2017.08 #1

Posted: 05 Aug 2017, 19:23
by Arcueid_57
Matchs deployed with TheKidPunisher. Waiting for him.

Re: Gladiabots Cup 2017.08 #1

Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 01:08
by 0x1de
Mcompany beat me 7-0-1. I only managed to win on COD

Re: Gladiabots Cup 2017.08 #1

Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 04:14
by TheKidPunisher
Arcueid_57 5:3 TheKidPunisher

Details:
745895 T7W: Arcueid
745896 SYP: Arcueid
745897 MP: TheKidPunisher
745898 CoD: Arcueid
745899 SP: TheKidPunisher
745992 MG: TheKidPunisher
745904 KM: Arcueid
745906 BS: Arcueid

GG

I finish at the last place, my revenge will be terrible!

Good vacations to you all. Bye

Re: Gladiabots Cup 2017.08 #1

Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 09:20
by pier4r
So there will be missing the following points.

Ox1de needs 2 points more, deserving the victor against mrchris by forfeit.
B head needs 2 points more, deserving the victory against einstein by forfeit. Unfortunately I cannot change the scores of the previous rounds, but at least I leave a not for this.

Re: Gladiabots Cup 2017.08 #1

Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 09:25
by pier4r
Furthermore the swiss system has still a bit of random chances (I will analyze it, interesting), because for example miojo ended up over milkhunter but milkhunter meet more "hard" opponents (as in hard = in the leaderboard their score history shows that are 1900+ since long time) than miojo.

Re: Gladiabots Cup 2017.08 #1

Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 15:19
by LuBeNo
pier4r wrote:Furthermore the swiss system has still a bit of random chances (I will analyze it, interesting), because for example miojo ended up over milkhunter but milkhunter meet more "hard" opponents (as in hard = in the leaderboard their score history shows that are 1900+ since long time) than miojo.

Also mentioned this. Hard to tell if Miojo or Milkhunter is better. On the other hand in a competition there needs to be drama and a little bit luck.

There is always a next time.

Re: Gladiabots Cup 2017.08 #1

Posted: 06 Aug 2017, 15:50
by pier4r
True, no drama, no interest because it is obvious who wins.

For example many predictions where off.